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\v 36 U Yesu akamula, ''Ubumwene bwane te bwa pa chisu ichi. Nanthi ubumwene bwane bukabanga bwa chigaba cha chisu ichi, abambombo bane nge balwile ubwite ukuti nthakabikiwe ku ba Yuda. Loli ubumwene bwane te bwapano.'' \v 37 U Pilato akanena kukwache, ''Ka we mwene ulu?'' U Yesu akamwamula akati, ''Ukunena pakuti ne mwene. Pa chifukwa ichi nkhapapiwa, sona pa chifukwa nkhiza pa chisu, ukubika ubu kaboni ubwa bwanaloli. Wensi yo ali mu bwanaloli akwivwa amazwi ghane.'' |