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opened 2020-04-16 17:39:43 +00:00 by JohnH · 3 comments

JohnH commented

2020-04-16 17:39:43 +00:00

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18:18-19

-\v 18 Truly I say to you, whatever things you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you release on earth will be released in heaven.
\v 19 Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father who is in heaven.

+\v 18 I tell you truly, whatever things you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you release on earth will be released in heaven.
\v 19 Again I tell you truly, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father who is in heaven.

Current ULB is the same.

I am fine with adding "truly" to verse 19, but I don't understand the need to reorder the sentence or translate λέγω as "I tell."

I'm ok with the current ULB, but we could consider:

Truly I say to you ... Again, truly I say to you

SQ. I don't know. Maybe it was just to make it sound less odd?
Henry, can you remember or figure out what motivated this change?

18:18-19 -\v 18 **Truly I say to you**, whatever things you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you release on earth will be released in heaven. \v 19 **Again I say to you**, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father who is in heaven. +\v 18 **I tell you truly**, whatever things you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you release on earth will be released in heaven. \v 19 **Again I tell you truly**, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father who is in heaven. Current ULB is the same. I am fine with adding "truly" to verse 19, but I don't understand the need to reorder the sentence or translate λέγω as "I tell." I'm ok with the current ULB, but we could consider: Truly I say to you ... Again, truly I say to you ------- SQ. I don't know. Maybe it was just to make it sound less odd? **Henry, can you remember or figure out what motivated this change?**

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hmw3 commented

2020-04-23 17:43:08 +00:00

My Two Cents:

My Greek NT has, "18 Ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν· ... 19 Πάλιν [ἀμὴν] λέγω ὑμῖν." I wasn't checking OGNT at the time. So "Again, truly I say to you" is good.

My Two Cents: My Greek NT has, "18 Ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν· ... 19 Πάλιν [ἀμὴν] λέγω ὑμῖν." I wasn't checking OGNT at the time. So "Again, truly I say to you" is good.

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SusanQuigley commented

2020-04-28 15:24:19 +00:00

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Ok, I get the impression there is no strong reason for using "I tell you truly" or "I say to you truly," I vote for leaving Matt 18:18, 19 as is.

Any other votes?

JH: I'm fine with it either way.

Coming from the ipsissima verba of Christ, seems like it may need to be there, if possible.

Ok, I get the impression there is no strong reason for using "I tell you truly" or "I say to you truly," I vote for leaving Matt 18:18, 19 as is. **Any other votes?** ______________ JH: I'm fine with it either way. __________ Coming from the ipsissima verba of Christ, seems like it may need to be there, if possible. ___________

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