Reproach

JohnH commented

2020-04-07 19:53:50 +00:00

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Here are some of the commits I have come across that has added the word "reproach." We can decide if we like this word or not. Instead of continuing to add this to each commit issue, we can do a search and deal with this all at once.

Rom 15:3

\v 3 For even Christ did not please himself. Instead, it was just as it is written, "The insults of those who insulted you fell on me."
\v 3 For even Christ did not please himself. Instead, it was just as it is written, "The reproaches of those who insulted you fell on me."

Rom 15:3 (again)

\v 3 For even Christ did not please himself. Instead, it was just as it is written, "The reproaches of those who insulted you fell on me."
\v 3 For even Christ did not please himself. Instead, it was just as it is written, "The insults of those who insulted you fell on me."

Current Rom 15:3

\v 3 For even Christ did not please himself. Instead, it was just as it is written, "The reproaches of those who reproached you fell on me."

Heb 13:13

-\v 13 Let us therefore go to him outside the camp, bearing his shame.
+\v 13 Let us therefore go to him outside the camp, bearing his reproach.
\v 13 Let us therefore go to him outside the camp, bearing his reproach.

Heb 10:33

\v 33 You were exposed to public ridicule by insults and persecution, and you were sharing with those who went through such suffering.
\v 33 You were exposed to public ridicule by reproaches and persecution, and you were sharing with those who went through such suffering.
\v 33 You were exposed to public ridicule by reproaches and persecution, and you were sharing with those who went through such suffering.

Heb 11:26

\v 26 He reasoned that the disgrace of following Christ was greater riches than Egypt's treasures. For he was fixing his eyes on his reward.
\v 26 He reasoned that the reproach of Christ was greater riches than Egypt's treasures. For he was fixing his eyes on his reward.
\v 26 He reasoned that the reproach of Christ was greater riches than Egypt's treasures. For he was fixing his eyes on his reward.

1Pe 4:14 fe1a03a20f
-\v 14 If you are insulted for Christ's name, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and the Spirit of God is resting on you.
+\v 14 If you are reproached for Christ's name, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and the Spirit of God is resting on you.
\v 14 If you are reproached for Christ's name, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and the Spirit of God is resting on you.

Here are some of the commits I have come across that has added the word "reproach." We can decide if we like this word or not. Instead of continuing to add this to each commit issue, we can do a search and deal with this all at once. Rom 15:3 \v 3 For even Christ did not please himself. Instead, it was just as it is written, "The **insults** of those who **insulted** you fell on me." \v 3 For even Christ did not please himself. Instead, it was just as it is written, "The **reproaches** of those who **insulted** you fell on me." Rom 15:3 (again) \v 3 For even Christ did not please himself. Instead, it was just as it is written, "The **reproaches** of those who **insulted** you fell on me." \v 3 For even Christ did not please himself. Instead, it was just as it is written, "The **insults** of those who **insulted** you fell on me." Current Rom 15:3 \v 3 For even Christ did not please himself. Instead, it was just as it is written, "The **reproaches** of those who **reproached** you fell on me." ---------------------- Heb 13:13 -\v 13 Let us therefore go to him outside the camp, bearing his **shame.** +\v 13 Let us therefore go to him outside the camp, bearing his **reproach.** \v 13 Let us therefore go to him outside the camp, bearing his **reproach**. -------------------- Heb 10:33 \v 33 You were exposed to public ridicule by **insults** and persecution, and you were sharing with those who went through such suffering. \v 33 You were exposed to public ridicule by **reproaches** and persecution, and you were sharing with those who went through such suffering. \v 33 You were exposed to public ridicule by **reproaches** and persecution, and you were sharing with those who went through such suffering. --- Heb 11:26 \v 26 He reasoned that the **disgrace** of following Christ was greater riches than Egypt's treasures. For he was fixing his eyes on his reward. \v 26 He reasoned that the **reproach** of Christ was greater riches than Egypt's treasures. For he was fixing his eyes on his reward. \v 26 He reasoned that the reproach of Christ was greater riches than Egypt's treasures. For he was fixing his eyes on his reward. ------ 1Pe 4:14 https://content.bibletranslationtools.org/WycliffeAssociates/en_ulb/commit/fe1a03a20f37a7e0735dbd453ca50ee7c79ca3f1 -\v 14 If you are **insulted** for Christ's name, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and the Spirit of God is resting on you. +\v 14 If you are **reproached** for Christ's name, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and the Spirit of God is resting on you. \v 14 If you are **reproached** for Christ's name, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and the Spirit of God is resting on you.

SusanQuigley commented

2020-04-15 15:19:31 +00:00

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The TW page for "reproach" has only the words "reproach, reproaches, reproached, reproaching, reproachfully"
Some form of "reproach" occurs 52 times in the ULB.
"Reproachfully" does not occur in the ULB.
The UDB has "reproach" in Job 27:6. I suggest changing that to "accuse".

I think it would be good to change "reproach" in the ULB back to the more common words that were used in each of those verses. (Since Henry normally told which chapter(s) he was doing a commit on, we can probably look at the history in each book for the relevant commit to find the former word.)

In the NT, some form of "reproach" occurs in
Mat - 3X
Mrk - 2X
Luk - 1X
Rom - 2X
Col - 1X
1Ti - 3X
Heb - 3X
1Pe - 1X

I changed the single occurrence of reproach in the UDB to "accuse." Committed to the UDB.
Tom W.

**The TW page for "reproach"** has only the words "reproach, reproaches, reproached, reproaching, reproachfully" Some form of "reproach" occurs 52 times in the ULB. "Reproachfully" does not occur in the ULB. The **UDB** has "reproach" in Job 27:6. I suggest changing that to "accuse". I think it would be good to change "reproach" in the ULB back to the more common words that were used in each of those verses. (Since Henry normally told which chapter(s) he was doing a commit on, we can probably look at the history in each book for the relevant commit to find the former word.) In the NT, some form of "reproach" occurs in Mat - 3X Mrk - 2X Luk - 1X Rom - 2X Col - 1X 1Ti - 3X Heb - 3X 1Pe - 1X _______________ I changed the single occurrence of reproach in the UDB to "accuse." Committed to the UDB. Tom W.

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JohnH commented

2020-04-15 15:31:42 +00:00

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I agree with using a more common word.

I checked all the Greek strong's numbers on the "reproach" page. They are all on other tw pages. So, I think we can use more common words and still link them to these other pages.

I agree with using a more common word. I checked all the Greek strong's numbers on the "reproach" page. They are all on other tw pages. So, I think we can use more common words and still link them to these other pages.

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hmw3 commented

2020-04-15 19:16:37 +00:00

Sounds good.

TomWarren commented

2020-04-16 19:20:05 +00:00

The ULB of 1SA 25:39
\v 39 When David heard that Nabal was dead, he said, "May Yahweh be blessed, who has avenged the insult I have received from the hand of Nabal and has kept back his servant from doing wrong. He has turned Nabal's evil action back on his own head." Then David sent and spoke to Abigail, to take her to himself as wife.

Job 19:3
\v 3 These ten times you have insulted me;
\q you are not ashamed that you have treated me harshly.

Job 27:6
\v 6 I hold fast to my righteousness and will not let it go;
\q my conscience will not accuse me so long as I live.

Psalm 31:11
\v 11 Because of all my enemies, I have become contemptible;
\q my neighbors are appalled at my situation,
\q and those who know me are horrified.
\q Those who see me in the street run from me.

Psalm 39:8
\v 8 Rescue me from my sins;
\q do not make me the scorn of fools.

Psalm 57:3
\v 3 He will send help from heaven and save me,
\q he rebukes those who hotly pursue me.
\qs Selah\qs*
\q God will send me his steadfast love and his faithfulness.

Psalm 69:10 - 11
\v 10 When I weep and fast,
\q I must endure scorn.
\q
\v 11 When I put on sackcloth,
\q I became a byword to them.

Psa 74:22
\v 22 Arise, God; plead your own cause;
\q call to mind how fools mock you all day long.

Psa 79:4
\v 4 We are objects of contempt to our neighbors,
\q mocking and derision to those who are around us.

Psa 79:12
\v 12 Pay back into the laps of our neighboring countries seven times as much
\q as the contempt with which they have taunted you, Lord.

Psa 89:41
\v 41 All who pass by have robbed him.
\q He has become the scorn of his neighbors.

Psa 109:25
\v 25 I have become an object of scorn to my accusers;
\q when they see me, they shake their heads.

Psa 119:39
\v 39 Take away the disgrace I dread,
\q for your judgments are good.

ISA 51:7
\v 7 Listen to me, you who know what is right, you people who have my law in your heart:
\q1 Do not fear the scorn of men, nor be dismayed by their abuse.

Isa 54:4
\v 4 Do not fear for you will not be ashamed,
\q1 nor be discouraged for you will not be disgraced;
\q1 you will forget the shame of your youth
\q1 and you will remember no more the disgrace of your widowhood.

Jeremiah 15:15
\v 15 Yahweh, you know! Remember me and help me. Bring vengeance for me against those who persecute me.
\q You are patient, but do not allow them to take me away; know that I have suffered insult for your sake.

Jer 20:8
\v 8 For whenever I have spoken, I have called out and proclaimed, 'Violence and destruction.'
\q So the word of Yahweh has brought me insult and mocking all the day.

Jer 23:40
\v 40 Then I will put everlasting disgrace and everlasting shame on you that will not be forgotten.'"

Jer 31:19
\v 19 For after I turned back to you, I repented; after I was trained, I slapped my thigh.
\q I was ashamed and humiliated, for I have borne the disgrace of my youth.'

Jer 44:8
\v 8 By your wickedness you have provoked me to anger with the deeds of your hands, by burning incense to other gods in the land of Egypt, where you have gone to live. You have gone there so that you will be destroyed, so that you will be a curse and a taunt among all the nations of the earth.

Jer 44:12
\v 12 For I will take the remnant of Judah that has set out to go to the land of Egypt to live there. I will do this so that they will all perish in the land of Egypt. They will fall by sword and famine. From the least to the greatest they will die by sword and famine. They will die and will become a curse, an object of horror—a curse and an insult.

Jer 51:50
\v 51 We are ashamed, for we have been insulted; shame has covered our faces,
\q for foreigners have entered the holy places of the house of Yahweh.

LAM 3:30
\v 30 Let him offer his cheek to the one who strikes him, and let him be filled to the full with insults.

Lam 3:61
\v 61 You have heard their insults, Yahweh, and all their plots against me.

Ezk 5:14
\v 14 I will make you a ruin and an object of scorn to the nations that surround you and in the sight of everyone who passes by.

Ezk 16:52
\v 52 Bear your disgrace, for you have furnished justification for your sisters. Because of your sins, which you committed so abominably, you have made your sisters appear to be more righteous than you. So then, be ashamed and bear your disgrace, for you have made your sisters appear righteous.

Ezk 16:57
\v 57 before your wickedness was revealed. Now you are scorned by the daughters of Edom and to all the daughters of the Philistines around her—all those around you despise you.

Ezk 22:4
\v 4 You have become guilty by the blood that you have poured out, and you have become unclean by the idols that you have made. You have drawn your days to a close, and the end of your years has come. Therefore I will make you an object of scorn to the nations and a laughingstock to all the countries.

Ezk 36:15
\v 15 Nor will I allow you to hear the insults of the nations any longer; you will no longer have to suffer the scorn of the peoples or cause your nation to fall—this is the Lord Yahweh's declaration.'"

Mic 2:6
\v 6 "Do not prophesy,"
\q their prophets say.
\q "They must not prophesy these things;
\q disgrace will not overtake us."

Mic 6:16
\v 16 You have observed the statutes of Omri,
\q and all the works of the house of Ahab.
\q You have walked in their counsels,
\q Therefore I will give you over to ruin
\q and your inhabitants to derision,
\q and you will bear the scorn of my people."

Mat 5:11
\v 11 "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you and say all kinds of evil things against you falsely for my sake.

Mat 11:20
\v 20 Then Jesus began to denounce the cities in which most of his miracles were done, because they had not repented.

Mat 27:44
\v 44 In the same way the robbers who were crucified with him also insulted him.

Mrk 15:32
\v 32 Let the Christ, the King of Israel, come down now from the cross, that we may see and believe." Those who were crucified with him also insulted him.

Mrk 16:14
\v 14 Jesus later appeared to the eleven as they were reclining at the table, and he rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who saw him after he rose from the dead.

Luk 6:22
\v 22 Blessed are you when people hate you, and when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man.

Rom 15:3
\v 3 For even Christ did not please himself. Instead, it was just as it is written, "The insults of those who insulted you fell on me."

Col 1:22
\v 22 But now he has reconciled you by his physical body through death. He did this in order to present you holy, blameless and above accusation—

1Ti 3:2
\v 2 Therefore an overseer must have a good reputation. He must be a husband of one wife. He must be moderate, sensible, orderly, and hospitable. He must be able to teach.

1Ti 5:14
\v 14 I therefore want younger women to marry, to bear children, to manage the household, and to give no opportunity for the enemy to slander us.

1Ti 6:14
\v 14 to keep the command without spot or blame until the appearance of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Heb 10:33
\v 33 Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution, and other times you shared with those who so treated.

Heb 11:26
\v 26 He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as greater value than the treasures of Egypt, for he was looking ahead to his reward.

Heb 13:13
\v 13 Let us therefore go to him outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he endured.

1Pe 4:14
\v 14 If you are insulted for Christ's name, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you.

There it is ... these are committed to the ULB ...

Tom W

The ULB of 1SA 25:39 \v 39 When David heard that Nabal was dead, he said, "May Yahweh be blessed, who has avenged the insult I have received from the hand of Nabal and has kept back his servant from doing wrong. He has turned Nabal's evil action back on his own head." Then David sent and spoke to Abigail, to take her to himself as wife. Job 19:3 \v 3 These ten times you have insulted me; \q you are not ashamed that you have treated me harshly. Job 27:6 \v 6 I hold fast to my righteousness and will not let it go; \q my conscience will not accuse me so long as I live. Psalm 31:11 \v 11 Because of all my enemies, I have become contemptible; \q my neighbors are appalled at my situation, \q and those who know me are horrified. \q Those who see me in the street run from me. Psalm 39:8 \v 8 Rescue me from my sins; \q do not make me the scorn of fools. Psalm 57:3 \v 3 He will send help from heaven and save me, \q he rebukes those who hotly pursue me. \qs Selah\qs* \q God will send me his steadfast love and his faithfulness. Psalm 69:10 - 11 \v 10 When I weep and fast, \q I must endure scorn. \q \v 11 When I put on sackcloth, \q I became a byword to them. Psa 74:22 \v 22 Arise, God; plead your own cause; \q call to mind how fools mock you all day long. Psa 79:4 \v 4 We are objects of contempt to our neighbors, \q mocking and derision to those who are around us. Psa 79:12 \v 12 Pay back into the laps of our neighboring countries seven times as much \q as the contempt with which they have taunted you, Lord. Psa 89:41 \v 41 All who pass by have robbed him. \q He has become the scorn of his neighbors. Psa 109:25 \v 25 I have become an object of scorn to my accusers; \q when they see me, they shake their heads. Psa 119:39 \v 39 Take away the disgrace I dread, \q for your judgments are good. ISA 51:7 \v 7 Listen to me, you who know what is right, you people who have my law in your heart: \q1 Do not fear the scorn of men, nor be dismayed by their abuse. Isa 54:4 \v 4 Do not fear for you will not be ashamed, \q1 nor be discouraged for you will not be disgraced; \q1 you will forget the shame of your youth \q1 and you will remember no more the disgrace of your widowhood. Jeremiah 15:15 \v 15 Yahweh, you know! Remember me and help me. Bring vengeance for me against those who persecute me. \q You are patient, but do not allow them to take me away; know that I have suffered insult for your sake. Jer 20:8 \v 8 For whenever I have spoken, I have called out and proclaimed, 'Violence and destruction.' \q So the word of Yahweh has brought me insult and mocking all the day. Jer 23:40 \v 40 Then I will put everlasting disgrace and everlasting shame on you that will not be forgotten.'" Jer 31:19 \v 19 For after I turned back to you, I repented; after I was trained, I slapped my thigh. \q I was ashamed and humiliated, for I have borne the disgrace of my youth.' Jer 44:8 \v 8 By your wickedness you have provoked me to anger with the deeds of your hands, by burning incense to other gods in the land of Egypt, where you have gone to live. You have gone there so that you will be destroyed, so that you will be a curse and a taunt among all the nations of the earth. Jer 44:12 \v 12 For I will take the remnant of Judah that has set out to go to the land of Egypt to live there. I will do this so that they will all perish in the land of Egypt. They will fall by sword and famine. From the least to the greatest they will die by sword and famine. They will die and will become a curse, an object of horror—a curse and an insult. Jer 51:50 \v 51 We are ashamed, for we have been insulted; shame has covered our faces, \q for foreigners have entered the holy places of the house of Yahweh. LAM 3:30 \v 30 Let him offer his cheek to the one who strikes him, and let him be filled to the full with insults. Lam 3:61 \v 61 You have heard their insults, Yahweh, and all their plots against me. Ezk 5:14 \v 14 I will make you a ruin and an object of scorn to the nations that surround you and in the sight of everyone who passes by. Ezk 16:52 \v 52 Bear your disgrace, for you have furnished justification for your sisters. Because of your sins, which you committed so abominably, you have made your sisters appear to be more righteous than you. So then, be ashamed and bear your disgrace, for you have made your sisters appear righteous. Ezk 16:57 \v 57 before your wickedness was revealed. Now you are scorned by the daughters of Edom and to all the daughters of the Philistines around her—all those around you despise you. Ezk 22:4 \v 4 You have become guilty by the blood that you have poured out, and you have become unclean by the idols that you have made. You have drawn your days to a close, and the end of your years has come. Therefore I will make you an object of scorn to the nations and a laughingstock to all the countries. Ezk 36:15 \v 15 Nor will I allow you to hear the insults of the nations any longer; you will no longer have to suffer the scorn of the peoples or cause your nation to fall—this is the Lord Yahweh's declaration.'" Mic 2:6 \v 6 "Do not prophesy," \q their prophets say. \q "They must not prophesy these things; \q disgrace will not overtake us." Mic 6:16 \v 16 You have observed the statutes of Omri, \q and all the works of the house of Ahab. \q You have walked in their counsels, \q Therefore I will give you over to ruin \q and your inhabitants to derision, \q and you will bear the scorn of my people." Mat 5:11 \v 11 "Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you and say all kinds of evil things against you falsely for my sake. Mat 11:20 \v 20 Then Jesus began to denounce the cities in which most of his miracles were done, because they had not repented. Mat 27:44 \v 44 In the same way the robbers who were crucified with him also insulted him. Mrk 15:32 \v 32 Let the Christ, the King of Israel, come down now from the cross, that we may see and believe." Those who were crucified with him also insulted him. Mrk 16:14 \v 14 Jesus later appeared to the eleven as they were reclining at the table, and he rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who saw him after he rose from the dead. Luk 6:22 \v 22 Blessed are you when people hate you, and when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man. Rom 15:3 \v 3 For even Christ did not please himself. Instead, it was just as it is written, "The insults of those who insulted you fell on me." Col 1:22 \v 22 But now he has reconciled you by his physical body through death. He did this in order to present you holy, blameless and above accusation— 1Ti 3:2 \v 2 Therefore an overseer must have a good reputation. He must be a husband of one wife. He must be moderate, sensible, orderly, and hospitable. He must be able to teach. 1Ti 5:14 \v 14 I therefore want younger women to marry, to bear children, to manage the household, and to give no opportunity for the enemy to slander us. 1Ti 6:14 \v 14 to keep the command without spot or blame until the appearance of our Lord Jesus Christ. Heb 10:33 \v 33 Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution, and other times you shared with those who so treated. Heb 11:26 \v 26 He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as greater value than the treasures of Egypt, for he was looking ahead to his reward. Heb 13:13 \v 13 Let us therefore go to him outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he endured. 1Pe 4:14 \v 14 If you are insulted for Christ's name, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. There it is ... these are committed to the ULB ... Tom W