Gen 25:3 #1087

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opened 2022-03-17 20:48:49 +00:00 by JohnH · 4 comments

JohnH commented

2022-03-17 20:48:49 +00:00

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\v 3 Jokshan became the father of Sheba and Dedan. The descendants of Dedan were the Assyrian people, the Letush people, and the Leum people.

Most translations have:

the Ashurites, the Letushites and the Leummites

Asshurim, Letushim, and Leummim

I'm ok with what the ULB has, but I wonder if "Assyiran people" is correct. From what I can find, this verse is not referring to the major nation of Assyria, but of a small tribe. Our wording is confusing.

I suggest changing these names to the Ashurites, the Letushites and the Leummites.

We have plenty of "-ites" in the ULB.

\v 3 Jokshan became the father of Sheba and Dedan. The descendants of Dedan were the Assyrian people, the Letush people, and the Leum people. Most translations have: the Ashurites, the Letushites and the Leummites or Asshurim, Letushim, and Leummim I'm ok with what the ULB has, but I wonder if "Assyiran people" is correct. From what I can find, this verse is not referring to the major nation of Assyria, but of a small tribe. Our wording is confusing. I suggest changing these names to the Ashurites, the Letushites and the Leummites. We have plenty of "-ites" in the ULB.

SusanQuigley commented

2022-03-18 18:45:24 +00:00

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The NIV has the Ashurites, the Letushites and the Leummites.

I dont know why the ULB is different. Im fine with the change.

I dont have my computer with me, so I cant do a search. Does the ULB have other places where Asshurim was erroneously translated as "Assyrian people"?

The NIV has the Ashurites, the Letushites and the Leummites. I dont know why the ULB is different. Im fine with the change. I dont have my computer with me, so I cant do a search. Does the ULB have other places where Asshurim was erroneously translated as "Assyrian people"?

JohnH commented

2022-03-18 18:51:52 +00:00

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The only other place this word occurs in the Bible is 2 Sam 2:9.

The ULB has:
\v 8 But Abner son of Ner, commander of Saul's army, took Ish-Bosheth son of Saul and brought him to Mahanaim.
\v 9 He made Ish-Bosheth king over Gilead, Asher, Jezreel, Ephraim, Benjamin, and over all Israel.

The NIV has:
He made him king over Gilead, Ashuri and Jezreel, and also over Ephraim, Benjamin and all Israel.

HCSB has:
He made him king over Gilead, Asher, Jezreel, Ephraim, Benjamin—over all Israel.

Most other English Bibles has "Ashurites."

The only other place this word occurs in the Bible is 2 Sam 2:9. The ULB has: \v 8 But Abner son of Ner, commander of Saul's army, took Ish-Bosheth son of Saul and brought him to Mahanaim. \v 9 He made Ish-Bosheth king over Gilead, **Asher**, Jezreel, Ephraim, Benjamin, and over all Israel. The NIV has: He made him king over Gilead, **Ashuri** and Jezreel, and also over Ephraim, Benjamin and all Israel. HCSB has: He made him king over Gilead, **Asher**, Jezreel, Ephraim, Benjamin—over all Israel. Most other English Bibles has "Ashurites."

SusanQuigley commented

2022-03-18 19:41:01 +00:00

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At least 2 Sam 2:9 doesnt have "Assyrian people". I think it would be fine to leave 2Sa 2:9 alone.