2 Chronicles 5:12 No verb

bobj commented

2021-12-28 21:32:17 +00:00

\v 11 It came about that the priests came out of the holy place. All the priests who were present had consecrated themselves to Yahweh, not ordering themselves according to their divisions.
\v 12 Also the Levites who were the singers, all of them, including Asaph, Heman, Jeduthun, and their sons and brothers, clothed in fine linen and playing cymbals, lutes and harps, and they stood at the east end of the altar. With them were 120 priests blowing trumpets.

ISSUE: Verse 12 was connected to verse 11 in the ASV. Now in the ULB, there is no verb in verse 12 before the conjunction.

SUGGESTION: Review vv. 11 & 12 to see if they can be worded better. I have no specific suggestions.

\v 11 It came about that the priests came out of the holy place. All the priests who were present had consecrated themselves to Yahweh, not ordering themselves according to their divisions. \v 12 **Also the Levites who were the singers, all of them, including Asaph, Heman, Jeduthun, and their sons and brothers, clothed in fine linen and playing cymbals, lutes and harps**, and they stood at the east end of the altar. With them were 120 priests blowing trumpets. ISSUE: Verse 12 was connected to verse 11 in the ASV. Now in the ULB, there is no verb in verse 12 before the conjunction. SUGGESTION: Review vv. 11 & 12 to see if they can be worded better. I have no specific suggestions.

SusanQuigley commented

2022-01-05 21:49:37 +00:00

Owner

In 5:11, the phrase "not ordering themselves accroding to their divisions" sounds like they came out in an unorderly way -- or at least not in order of their divisions. But other versions seem to mean that they all consecrated themselves regardless of whether their division was obligated to do it.

Suggestions:
\v 11 It came about that the priests came out of the holy place. All the priests who were present had consecrated themselves to Yahweh, ~~not ordering themselves according to their divisions~~ regardless of their divisions.
\v 12 Also the Levites who were the singers, all of them, including Asaph, Heman, Jeduthun, and their sons and brothers, clothed in fine linen and playing cymbals, lutes and harps, ~~and they~~ stood at the east end of the altar. With them were 120 priests blowing trumpets.

or

\v 11 It came about that the priests came out of the holy place. All the priests who were present had consecrated themselves to Yahweh, ~~not ordering themselves according to their divisions~~ regardless of their divisions.
\v 12 Also the Levites who were the singers, all of them, including Asaph, Heman, Jeduthun, and their sons and brothers, were clothed in fine linen and playing cymbals, lutes and harps. They stood at the east end of the altar. With them were 120 priests blowing trumpets.

or

\v 11 It came about that the priests came out of the holy place. All the priests who were present had consecrated themselves to Yahweh, ~~not ordering themselves according to their divisions~~ regardless of their divisions.
\v 12 Also the Levites who were the singers, all of them, including Asaph, Heman, Jeduthun, and their sons and brothers, were clothed in fine linen. ~~and~~ They were playing cymbals, lutes and harps, and they stood at the east end of the altar. With them were 120 priests blowing trumpets.

I like the last one best.

In 5:11, the phrase "not ordering themselves accroding to their divisions" sounds like they came out in an unorderly way -- or at least not in order of their divisions. But other versions seem to mean that they all consecrated themselves regardless of whether their division was obligated to do it. Suggestions: \v 11 It came about that the priests came out of the holy place. All the priests who were present had consecrated themselves to Yahweh, ~~not ordering themselves according to their divisions~~ **regardless of their divisions.** \v 12 Also the Levites who were the singers, all of them, including Asaph, Heman, Jeduthun, and their sons and brothers, clothed in fine linen and playing cymbals, lutes and harps, ~~and they~~ stood at the east end of the altar. With them were 120 priests blowing trumpets. or \v 11 It came about that the priests came out of the holy place. All the priests who were present had consecrated themselves to Yahweh, ~~not ordering themselves according to their divisions~~ **regardless of their divisions.** \v 12 Also the Levites who were the singers, all of them, including Asaph, Heman, Jeduthun, and their sons and brothers, **were** clothed in fine linen and playing cymbals, lutes and harps. **They stood** at the east end of the altar. With them were 120 priests blowing trumpets. or \v 11 It came about that the priests came out of the holy place. All the priests who were present had consecrated themselves to Yahweh, ~~not ordering themselves according to their divisions~~ **regardless of their divisions.** \v 12 Also the Levites who were the singers, all of them, including Asaph, Heman, Jeduthun, and their sons and brothers, **were** clothed in fine linen. ~~and~~ **They were** playing cymbals, lutes and harps, **and they stood** at the east end of the altar. With them were 120 priests blowing trumpets. I like the last one best.

SusanQuigley added the

John

label 2022-01-05 21:49:46 +00:00

JohnH commented

2022-01-07 20:59:38 +00:00

Owner

I lean towards your first suggestion since it has the least amount of changes, and the structure is closer to what other English version do when they start a new sentence in verse 12.

JohnH added

Susan

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John

labels 2022-01-07 20:59:50 +00:00

SusanQuigley commented

2022-01-10 22:09:42 +00:00

Owner

I made the changes in the first suggestion.

No changes were needed to TN, but we might need to add something explaining "regardless of their divisions". I'll add a TN issue.

I made the changes in the first suggestion. No changes were needed to TN, but we might need to add something explaining "regardless of their divisions". I'll add a TN issue.

SusanQuigley closed this issue

2022-01-10 22:16:19 +00:00

2 Chronicles 5:12 No verb #1042