Jer 4:1-2 If-clause without then-clause

SusanQuigley commented

2021-11-03 20:02:23 +00:00

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\q
\v 1 "If you return, Israel—
\q2 this is Yahweh's declaration—
\q2 then it should be to me that you return.
\q If you remove your detestable things from before me
\q2 and do not wander from me again,
\q
\v 2 You must be truthful, just, and righteous
\q2 when you swear, 'As Yahweh lives.'
\q Then the nations will bless themselves in him,
\q2 and in him they will glory."

Should we change that 'if' clause to a command, so that it will be like the first sentence in v2?

\q
\v 1 "If you return, Israel—
\q2 this is Yahweh's declaration—
\q2 then it should be to me that you return.
\q You must remove your detestable things from before me
\q2 and do not wander from me again.
\q
\v 2 You must be truthful, just, and righteous
\q2 when you swear, 'As Yahweh lives.'
\q Then the nations will bless themselves in him,
\q2 and in him they will glory."

Or should the first part of v 2 also be an if-clause?

\q
\v 1 "If you return, Israel—
\q2 this is Yahweh's declaration—
\q2 then it should be to me that you return.
\q If you remove your detestable things from before me
\q2 and do not wander from me again,
\q
\v 2 and if you are truthful, just, and righteous
\q2 when you swear, 'As Yahweh lives,'
\q then the nations will bless themselves in him,
\q2 and in him they will glory."

\q \v 1 "If you return, Israel— \q2 this is Yahweh's declaration— \q2 then it should be to me that you return. \q **If** you remove your detestable things from before me \q2 and do not wander from me again, \q \v 2 You must be truthful, just, and righteous \q2 when you swear, 'As Yahweh lives.' \q Then the nations will bless themselves in him, \q2 and in him they will glory." Should we change that 'if' clause to a command, so that it will be like the first sentence in v2? \q \v 1 "If you return, Israel— \q2 this is Yahweh's declaration— \q2 then it should be to me that you return. \q **You must** remove your detestable things from before me \q2 and do not wander from me again. \q \v 2 You must be truthful, just, and righteous \q2 when you swear, 'As Yahweh lives.' \q Then the nations will bless themselves in him, \q2 and in him they will glory." Or should the first part of v 2 also be an if-clause? \q \v 1 "If you return, Israel— \q2 this is Yahweh's declaration— \q2 then it should be to me that you return. \q **If** you remove your detestable things from before me \q2 and do not wander from me again, \q \v 2 **and if you are** truthful, just, and righteous \q2 when you swear, 'As Yahweh lives,' \q **then** the nations will bless themselves in him, \q2 and in him they will glory."

JohnH commented

2021-11-06 16:05:13 +00:00

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I agree with your second suggestion. I don't know if this is one we should change now or wait. I see the error in the text, but it is not a huge issue. What do you think?

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SusanQuigley commented

2021-11-09 13:59:49 +00:00

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I wonder if it would be good to correct grammatical errors and doctrinal errors now, but hold off better or smoother wordings for another revision.

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JohnH commented

2021-11-09 14:17:18 +00:00

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Sounds good to me.

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SusanQuigley commented

2021-11-09 16:08:05 +00:00

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Since this seems to be a grammatical error, would you like me to change it to one of the suggestions above?

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JohnH commented

2021-11-09 16:20:28 +00:00

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Yes. I preferred your second suggestion:

\q
\v 1 “If you return, Israel—
\q2 this is Yahweh’s declaration—
\q2 then it should be to me that you return.
\q If you remove your detestable things from before me
\q2 and do not wander from me again,
\q
\v 2 and if you are truthful, just, and righteous
\q2 when you swear, ‘As Yahweh lives,’
\q then the nations will bless themselves in him,
\q2 and in him they will glory.”

Yes. I preferred your second suggestion: \q \v 1 “If you return, Israel— \q2 this is Yahweh’s declaration— \q2 then it should be to me that you return. \q If you remove your detestable things from before me \q2 and do not wander from me again, \q \v 2 and if you are truthful, just, and righteous \q2 when you swear, ‘As Yahweh lives,’ \q then the nations will bless themselves in him, \q2 and in him they will glory.”

SusanQuigley commented

2021-11-09 16:29:06 +00:00

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Thanks. Done. TNs are ok.