EST 9:15-16 Shifted text #12

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opened 2019-11-09 01:13:52 +00:00 by bobj · 1 comment

bobj commented

2019-11-09 01:13:52 +00:00

\v 15 The Jews in Susa gathered together and killed three hundred more people. But again, they did not take away any of their possessions.
\v 16 That happened on the fourteenth day of the month of Adar. On the following day, the Jews in Susa rested and celebrated. In all the other provinces, the Jewish people gathered together to defend themselves, and they killed seventy-five thousand people who hated them, but again, they took none of their possessions.

Issue: The first two sentences of v.16 are not in the Heb. It would be very confusing to a translator trying to use the UDB to clarify the meaning of the ULB text. The first sentence of v.16 belongs with v.15.

Suggest modifying the UDB text to read:

\v 15 The Jews in Susa gathered together and killed three hundred more people. But again, they did not take away any of their possessions. That happened on the fourteenth day of the month of Adar.
\v 16 In all the other provinces, the Jewish people gathered together to defend themselves, and they killed seventy-five thousand people who hated them, but again, they took none of their possessions.

For comparison, the ULB reads:
\v 15 The Jews who were in Susa came together on the fourteenth day of the month of Adar, and killed three hundred more men in Susa, but laid no hands on the plunder.
\v 16 The rest of the Jews who were in the king's provinces came together to defend their lives, and they got relief from their enemies and killed seventy-five thousand of those who hated them, but they did not lay their hands on the valuables of those they killed.

\v 15 The Jews in Susa gathered together and killed three hundred more people. But again, they did not take away any of their possessions. \v 16 **That happened on the fourteenth day of the month of Adar. On the following day, the Jews in Susa rested and celebrated.** In all the other provinces, the Jewish people gathered together to defend themselves, and they killed seventy-five thousand people who hated them, but again, they took none of their possessions. Issue: The first two sentences of v.16 are not in the Heb. It would be very confusing to a translator trying to use the UDB to clarify the meaning of the ULB text. The first sentence of v.16 belongs with v.15. Suggest modifying the UDB text to read: \v 15 The Jews in Susa gathered together and killed three hundred more people. But again, they did not take away any of their possessions. **That happened on the fourteenth day of the month of Adar.** \v 16 In all the other provinces, the Jewish people gathered together to defend themselves, and they killed seventy-five thousand people who hated them, but again, they took none of their possessions. For comparison, the ULB reads: \v 15 The Jews who were in Susa came together on the fourteenth day of the month of Adar, and killed three hundred more men in Susa, but laid no hands on the plunder. \v 16 The rest of the Jews who were in the king's provinces came together to defend their lives, and they got relief from their enemies and killed seventy-five thousand of those who hated them, but they did not lay their hands on the valuables of those they killed.

TomWarren commented

2019-11-11 20:25:26 +00:00

The UDB of Est 9:15-16 now reads, following the order of phrases:

\v 15 The Jews in Susa gathered together and killed three hundred more people. But again, they did not take away any of their possessions. That happened on the fourteenth day of the month of Adar.
\v 16 In all the other provinces, the Jewish people gathered together to defend themselves, and they killed seventy-five thousand people who hated them, but again, they took none of their possessions.

Thanks Bob,

Tom Warren

The UDB of Est 9:15-16 now reads, following the order of phrases: \v 15 The Jews in Susa gathered together and killed three hundred more people. But again, they did not take away any of their possessions. That happened on the fourteenth day of the month of Adar. \v 16 In all the other provinces, the Jewish people gathered together to defend themselves, and they killed seventy-five thousand people who hated them, but again, they took none of their possessions. Thanks Bob, Tom Warren