G4214 Grammar Tag

SusanQuigley commented

2020-07-14 18:49:00 +00:00

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G4214 (πόσος/posos)
This word is used instead of the name of a person or thing. It is a pronoun.

This word means how much, how great, or how many.

OGNT follows Strong's and tags this as Q, 'correlative or interrogative pronoun'. I find that very confusing, especially with our description of a pronoun as "This word is used instead of the name of a person or thing." I would have expected it to be tagged as an interrogative adjective to be like numbers, which are tagged as adjectives.

NAS Exhaustive Concordance calls it an interrogative adjective.

Could we change the grammar tag to "adjective" or maybe "interrogative adjective" or something like "questioning adjective"?

I see that OGNT has the following tags for these question words:
τίς 'who' - I (interrogative pronoun) (Mrk 8:27)
τίς 'which' - I (interrogative pronoun)(Mat 20:21)
πόθεν 'where' - ADV (Adverb) (Mat 13:56)
ότε 'when' -PRT-I (PaRTicle, Interrogative) (Mat 25:37)
(εἰς) τίς '(toward) what' (why) - (interrogative pronoun) (Mat 14:31)
πως 'how' - ADV (Adverb)

If we want them to have tags we are mainly using, how about something like these?
τίς 'who' - Interrogative pronoun
τίς 'which' - Interrogative pronoun
πόθεν 'where' - Interrogative adverb
ότε 'when' - Interrogative adverb
(εἰς) τίς '(toward) what' - Interrogative pronoun
πως 'how' - Interrogative adverb
posos 'how much' - Interrogative adjective

Here is a link to the GWT Step 3 page: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i7ZSt7bt6Zq0l9tqoOkACtEMoRdn_83o8BJWS4qs5Qw/edit#heading=h.rzwi0hd8bdey

**G4214 (πόσος/posos)** This word is used instead of the name of a person or thing. It is a pronoun. * This word means how much, how great, or how many. ----------- **OGNT follows Strong's and tags this as Q, 'correlative or interrogative pronoun'.** I find that very confusing, especially with our description of a pronoun as "This word is used instead of the name of a person or thing." I would have expected it to be tagged as an interrogative adjective to be like numbers, which are tagged as adjectives. **NAS Exhaustive Concordance** calls it an interrogative adjective. **Could we change the grammar tag** to "adjective" or maybe "interrogative adjective" or something like "questioning adjective"? **I see that OGNT has the following tags for these question words:** τίς 'who' - I (interrogative pronoun) (Mrk 8:27) τίς 'which' - I (interrogative pronoun)(Mat 20:21) πόθεν 'where' - ADV (Adverb) (Mat 13:56) ότε 'when' -PRT-I (PaRTicle, Interrogative) (Mat 25:37) (εἰς) τίς '(toward) what' (why) - (interrogative pronoun) (Mat 14:31) πως 'how' - ADV (Adverb) **If we want them to have tags we are mainly using, how about something like these?** τίς 'who' - Interrogative pronoun τίς 'which' - Interrogative pronoun πόθεν 'where' - Interrogative adverb ότε 'when' - Interrogative adverb (εἰς) τίς '(toward) what' - Interrogative pronoun πως 'how' - Interrogative adverb posos 'how much' - Interrogative adjective Here is a link to the GWT Step 3 page: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i7ZSt7bt6Zq0l9tqoOkACtEMoRdn_83o8BJWS4qs5Qw/edit#heading=h.rzwi0hd8bdey

SusanQuigley commented

2020-07-14 20:01:30 +00:00

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G4214 (πόσος/posos)
This word is used instead of the name of a person or thing. It is a pronoun.

This word means how much, how great, or how many.

OGNT follows Strong's and tags this as Q, 'correlative or interrogative pronoun'. I find that very confusing, especially with our description of a pronoun as "This word is used instead of the name of a person or thing." I would have expected it to be tagged as an interrogative adjective to be like numbers, which are tagged as adjectives.

NAS Exhaustive Concordance calls it an interrogative adjective.

Could we change the grammar tag to "adjective" or maybe "interrogative adjective" or something like "questioning adjective"?

I see that OGNT has the following tags for these question words:
τίς 'who' - I (interrogative pronoun) (Mrk 8:27)
τίς 'which' - I (interrogative pronoun)(Mat 20:21)
πόθεν 'where' - ADV (Adverb) (Mat 13:56)
πότε 'when' -PRT-I (PaRTicle, Interrogative) (Mat 25:37)
(εἰς) τίς '(toward) what' (why) - (interrogative pronoun) (Mat 14:31)
πως 'how' - ADV (Adverb) (Mat 21:20)
ποταπός 'what kind of' - I (Interrogative pronoun) (Mat 8:27) (Step 2 of GWT tagged this as adjective.)

If we want them to have tags we use a lot, how about these?
τίς 'who' - pronoun
τίς 'which' - pronoun
πόθεν 'where' - adverb
πότε 'when' - adverb
(εἰς) τίς '(toward) what' - pronoun
πως 'how' - adverb
ποταπός 'what kind of' - adjective
πόσος 'how much' - adjective

**G4214 (πόσος/posos)** This word is used instead of the name of a person or thing. It is a pronoun. * This word means how much, how great, or how many. ----------- **OGNT follows Strong's and tags this as Q, 'correlative or interrogative pronoun'.** I find that very confusing, especially with our description of a pronoun as "This word is used instead of the name of a person or thing." I would have expected it to be tagged as an interrogative adjective to be like numbers, which are tagged as adjectives. **NAS Exhaustive Concordance** calls it an interrogative adjective. **Could we change the grammar tag** to "adjective" or maybe "interrogative adjective" or something like "questioning adjective"? **I see that OGNT has the following tags for these question words:** τίς 'who' - I (interrogative pronoun) (Mrk 8:27) τίς 'which' - I (interrogative pronoun)(Mat 20:21) πόθεν 'where' - ADV (Adverb) (Mat 13:56) πότε 'when' -PRT-I (PaRTicle, Interrogative) (Mat 25:37) (εἰς) τίς '(toward) what' (why) - (interrogative pronoun) (Mat 14:31) πως 'how' - ADV (Adverb) (Mat 21:20) ποταπός 'what kind of' - I (Interrogative pronoun) (Mat 8:27) **(Step 2 of GWT tagged this as adjective.)** **If we want them to have tags we use a lot, how about these?** τίς 'who' - pronoun τίς 'which' - pronoun πόθεν 'where' - adverb πότε 'when' - adverb (εἰς) τίς '(toward) what' - pronoun πως 'how' - adverb ποταπός 'what kind of' - adjective πόσος 'how much' - adjective

SusanQuigley commented

2020-07-14 20:05:16 +00:00

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The second window above is my correction. I don't know why, but I cannot edit or delete the first attempt, and I cannot edit the second one.

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