\v 3 Yesu adamutawira, "lndetu, indetu, pokha pokha wina achibadwa pomwe ndiye angaone ufumu bwa Mulungu." \v 4 Nicodemo adati kuna iye, "Munthu angabadwe tani pomwe uko iye wakalamba? Angakapite lini pomwe kachiwiri mchiberekero cha mayi wache mkubadwa, angathe?"
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